Has anyone else read the post by wombat about Eric Wenger owning the code for Bryce?, if that's the case then Corel or Vector cannot kill Bryce and it is possible to bring Bryce back using another name and a slightly different UI, since that's the only thing Corel actually bought. As for the PC/Mac thing, this is just stupid, 'cos if you don't sign there is less of a chance of anything positive being done with Bryce, for PC or for Mac. But as others have said if we get things moving again it gives us the chance to have all versions reactivated. Catlin