I think that many doesn't understand that Vue 4 Professional is what it says: A software for professionals. If you choose to purchase Vue PRO, even if you are not a professional but just because you want to have only 2 of its multiple and terrific new features, you will not want, at a later moment, to update from Vue 4 to Vue 5, but upgrade, whenever, to a new Pro version. You will not want, because in discovering Pro, you will use the otherfeatures too (even if you don't do animation) and you would not like to miss it anymore (new light features, automatically seamless made Reflection maps from any bitmap, 100% syncronisation with Poser 4 and 5 and high end software, ability to replace automatically lights and primitives by another one, exporting objects and Plants, and and and...) Vue 4 Professional has much more to offer then just a plant editor and wind (and not only to animators). I cannot imagine that these features will be in a future Vue d'Esprit 5. Maybe small parts of it as a separate sold additive like Mover 4?? MHO Guitta