OK, considering all that has been said about V2 and M3 and who was made from what and meshes aren't the same, I decided to load the obj file for V3 and the obj file for M3. These are the raw obj files directly from the Geometries folder..no morphs, no cr2s, no poses, no textures, etc. Do you see ANY similarities, ANYTHING at all? Are they TOTALLY different, and I mean TOTALLY different? This is just an observation. I'll leave the judgements up to you.