I'm not complaining about DAZ as a company, sure they do wonderful work, sure their prices are unbeatable but they have just made a wrong turn. Every company has their hit and misses. For what I have seen Michael 3 is a total miss and that's because of the unimesh idea. Victoria 1, 2 3, Michael 1 and 2 where original meshes and they were good meshes. Michael 3 wasn't going to break our wallets for being started from the ground up, the development costs had to be similar to the ones for Victoria 3. Going from male to female is easier, that's why Stephanie is not such a bad model, you have more vertices to play around with the shape.