wow, thank you all for your comments, just made my day to see some of the Renderosity Masters compliment my work :). And your right, the roofing and the railing needs to be more worn looking, Mother should be there looking out the window, and Norman should just be coming up the staircase with a bloody knife........lol someday when I get back to this and learn how to work poser I'll put your suggestions to work in this image....but for now...I'm on to different things cuz I'm lil bits sick of looking at it lol. Thanks again, Teri R