Ohohoh, I can't wait to try the open GL thingy!!!! I've never even thought about it, I've heard it mentioned. I guess its a day to learn something new, and I should get a notepad and write down those combo keys thing too. I'm so glad when someone asks a question like this. I never even thought about it but its something that bugs me. I usually go into solo mode with what I'm trying to position and this will be so much easier than doing that! Thanks