I probably should add one thing ... >> As for the "Poser 5 fiasco", it's up to Curious Labs to prove that this is behind them. I hope they do, because I am a fan of Poser and have been since version 1. But, I do have to admit, that I miss a LOT of the CL people that have since gone on to other things. IMHO, they were the heart and soul of Poser, and some of the magic went with them. 8-(