elgfyu, What's missing is positive feedback. If you just sit and compare your stuff to the best of the best (and remember, a lot of people here are professional) you start hearing only that voice in your head saying, "my stuff is no good". I'm not NEARLY as good as even the average poserholic, but I found I get a LOT of good strokes by using poser for charity services. I make posters up (if they will pay for the printing) and have become widely known for Powerpoint presentations using .avi's and animgifs I do with Poser. I am currently doing a lot for our local symphony, such as projected powerpoints in the lobby to recognize and thank the symphony sponsors. I get a lot of compliments and each time I try to outdo the last one in technique and humor. Take some of your stuff around and I bet you get a lot of interest. Especially if you donate your work. Do it for true charities though....don't undercut any professional artists by giving it free to clients who can and should pay...if they want it, make them pay. Scarab<-currently teaching myself to animate the Mill cat