Thorne, you are a glutton for punishment. ;-) Now you know why the whole thing is so frustrating for those of us who just can't quite get the hang of magnets or joint parameters and all those other lovely things that modelers and clothing makers do for us. What you have already managed to do would have taken me weeks. I would seriously be willing to pay for conversions from one character to another on a lot of items out there. And I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who feels that way. :) Kate (who knows her limits)