Oh there's nothing as good as some heavy pain meds when you're in pain and most of them do make you sleep which is the best thing for you. So put your tootsies up, keep warn and relaxed, and that render will be finished in no time and you'll be feeling much better too. Take good care Jen don't try to do too much and have a giggle at Rayraz with his not having had one of those. 8) Catlin