Thanks everyone for your quick replies. Jon, you're right I tracked it down through the cr2 file (which I realised I still had) I have Emailed Traveler and I am waiting on his reply. Chris, I've still got your excellent textures, and the hair is in the poser free stuff. Here is the shortcut. http://www.renderosity.com/download.ez?uploadid=2635 If this doesn't work search hair and it'll be on the 2nd page. Thanks again Marc