I try to pose them myself, but sometimes I just can't quite get the little nuances I'm looking for and if someone has odne a better job of it, I'll apply a downloaded pose. I use the dials to get minute changes. As the others pointed out, you won't see the textures until you render. I always render to a new window. Paul, maybe you would be willing to share your base poses with the rest of us. That sounds like a great idea. Melanie