thanks jen, yeah ive been looking around on the galleries here and at cgtalk alot, and been been browsing through the galleries of some of my favorite artists--I was going to re-make a Ted Nasmith painting in Bryce, but i kind of forgot about it until now. maybe Ill try to start a new prject this afternoon. thamks for the support and enthusiasm, it is greatly apprciated. have an awesome day. Jordan