800 is running well - that is good to hear. Damn - that is not good - exporting is one of the key features. I don't own any of the apps it can export to but that is a bad sign. Are you exporting out entire scenes? Are you doing it with the plug-ins? How is the editing of complex materials - that crashes a lot in vue4 regular. How is the openGL? Can you use it with a geforce4 MX? Have you tried animating some wind yet? That would be a good test. thanks for letting me know how its going. Mine just shipped today so it should be here sometime next week. Scott