Funny that all of you just take these test results for granted. Guys, be serious, we're comparing apples with oranges at the moment... There two major reasons for that; a) one doesn't exactly know how the scene is converted to Cinema 4D. It might well be that lots of polygons were added or any other things that would slow down the render b) both render engines work different and use different settings Other than that I think its very doubtful that Vue d'Esprit renders 2 times (!) faster than Cinema 4D, which is considered to have one of the fastest render engines in the world, confirmed in several tests. I don't want to spoil the fun, but this test isn't proving anything. Just my 2 cents