Just freakin use the FREE zonelab or don't install the damn thing! Sheeeesh, why make such a big deal out of it? Because from a security standpoint it IS a big deal. >>>I doubt very much if it is spyware to capture warez people, why not wait until they answer your emails... First, that is the problem. No one knows what it is. Curious Labs could have prevented this by SIMPLY INFORMING US UPFRONT WHAT IT WAS. They didn't. Neither did AOL. Neither did Real Audio. Neither did Aureate. >>>or...is it possible I am the only one who actually emailed them to ask them why they did this? Nope. I know that for a fact. >>>Let's see, I think I'll just figure everyone who complains about this has a warez copy of Poser, I won't give anyone the benefit of the doubt, I'll just fly off the handle and get everyone all excited about it. Just ask, find out before you start with the accusations. Marque The previously mentioned companies abused that "...benefit of the doubt..." when they did what they did. And when it comes to security of my computer system, I give no one the benefit of the doubt. That is why I use a firewall. That is why I use anti-virus programs. Isn't that why we all use such procedures? The bottom line is that the presence of the coding and/or procedure allowing the Poser 4.03 patch to "phone home" should have been openly revealed. It was not. That alone was a breach of trust. And that gives each and every Poser here the right to "...fly off the handle and get everyone all excited about it." Even if it is an "innocent" error or an "innocent" feature, Curious Labs bungled it. Now, I hope to be off to bed. Unless someone else wants to browbeat someone for being security conscious.