Phoul : Should be interesting to compare between Vue4 and Vue 4 pro rendering times for the same quality. Not easy to do that, since it is possible that new settings aren't corresponding to olders (remember than Vue rendering quality has been decreased since Vue 3 to decrease rendering time, "ultra" does no more correspond to the same quality). Couldn't do that since I just have Vue3. I remember that some tests were done in the past (one year ago maybe), maybe still by audity. > Absinthe : who are you ? Why haven't you said here that one of your rendering was GI as you mentioned in C4D forum ? GI has nothing to do with other rendering modes, as it's one of the best as radiosity and hdri are also (and we all know that they are time consuming). Why haven't you mentioned on C4D forum that you have done some comparisons with Vue rendering times ? C4D People have lost a good reason to laugh !!!