Aye, Nose IS Rhino, AgentSmith! The word rhinoceros means "noser-er", and my little brother makes fun of me whenever I'm "playing Nose 2.0". (He prefers Morrowind, of course...) AS, perhaps look around your area for a Half-Price Books. It is very legal, and MUCH cheaper than 800 dollars! (I live by Seattle, there are a few of those stores up here) If you can't find a store like that, perhaps let me know and I could just send you a cheap, store-bought, legal copy of Rhinoceros. Students, and others I'm sure, take software to Half-Price all the time, and I thank them for it! (That's how I got started with Bryce 3D , too!)