pjbear, Some people can see past the "WOW", tend to look a little deeper and closer and say...hum..something isn't quit right with this part or that part and then point it out hoping someone will be able to correct it to make the product more useful to everyone, not just a few. Other people only look at the "WOW, the is new and so neat", are satisfued with it, problems and all, and constantly belittle those that try to get something corrected. M3 is a good mesh but has some problems. Certain poses do throw some joints out, whether slim or muscular altho muscular morphs make those joint problems more pronounced even if they shouldn't. Not every guy is built the same so M3 would be more useful to everyone if, when you try to add even a little defination or muscle to it, the joint wouldn't get deformed. Mention that and you get "you have to use the dials". Well, I've used ever dial M3 has and some areas just don't work right. One thing you have to remember around here..the majority rules whether they are right, wrong, in between, or whatever. If most people like their M3 to be slim, have essentially the same body shape, same looking eyes (even with a different color)...so be it. No 2 people are alike, look alike, or even similar unless they have a twin. There are people working on M3 and I'm hopeing those problems areas can be correct and M3 can be more useful to everyone, not just the people that like it the way it is.