And what about the time slip on the subscriptions? You only come in here when folks start talking about leaving in droves, why don't you take 20 minutes to update your site? And if you aren't going to use the preview area why have it there? I have sent you numerous emails and also mentioned in the shoutbox that my remaining subscription time was not accurate, and nothing. It is not acceptable for you to come in here once in a blue moon to explain why your pay site is not working correctly, you need to deal with business on your own site. What about people who don't frequent Renderosity? (I know that's hard to believe but there are certainly some who don't). Patience is won with honesty and communication. Marque