Guitta, I hope you will re-consider your idea to avoid december contest ... People are happy to do these contest, they are very motivated, thus they can improve their skill in composition, texturing, rendering more efficiently. Thats what is interesting for Vue community and for you. You have surely taken the good decision in submitting all the pics to the judges. You still are for me a very good mod, hope all here are understanding that point, especially the new Vue users. Not easy to organize contests, having to write the rules, to spend time to find sponsors, to upload the pictures, to answer the questions, not only related to the contest but also to the Vue forum (to do the same for the challenge!!!)... I've not participated to the contest, it's easy for me to say that the problem beeing solved, it is very important to sustain Guitta and her work, and not to discourage her IMHO, Yves