I do remember seeing PhilC's low-poly meshes, I should have mentioned that. I was thinking in terms of people that had both Poser and the Sims too, as I'd set it up so that they could use the same textures (or maybe higher-res versions of them with Poser). I did try them in the game, they work fine with the exception of problems that the game always has with long hair, as it doesn't bend, just pivots with the head. I worked on that but there doesn't seem to be any way around it. The P4 Casual guy has 19,564 faces (2 faces = 1 polygon, more or less), compared to 4400 for my French maid, the highest poly count of the bunch. The Posette has about 31,000 faces, if I recall. I'm aware of the fact that the Sims community is huge (2 million copies of the game, I understand), I'm under the impression that most of them don't buy anything though, unlike Poser people. ;-) I'm hopeing this takes off, as I do want to do some guys for the next set.