Yep, I finally caved in and got M3. Haven't installed him yet though; waiting for the M3 SR1 patch for that to happen. Basically I got M3 now as I really wanted the free "mystery" model instead (due in November 2003), which appears to be a unimesh-based "hulk-like" character. I'm putting my (blind) faith in DAZ that this new mystery model will be a "real man" (e.g. bodybuilder/barbarian-type character)and not suck like the existing, rather wimpy-looking (pre SR1) M3. Sad, huh? ;-p