I'm sort of with Tempus Fugit at this point. CL should never have wasted time designing a new set of "dorks" for Poser. They should have contracted M1 and V1 from DAZ and focused on the app itself. I NEVER use Don or Judy. They just can't compare to the milleniums. Plus the bulk of the products I have are for those characters. This naturally makes the face room useless to me and like Tempus, I hardly use the rest of it for the reasons stated. If I have to pay to update an app that isn't working right, I'll have a hard time swallowing that one. I'm not slamming Poser, but the folks behind it leave much to be desired. Working in the tech environment, I know that DAZ Studio is not going to be the do-all/end-all of everything, but it will be nice to see something fresh and see what other people might be able to do with something similar. But I'm not throwing Poser out yet.