Plugins that were in ProPack that you don't have to purchase from 3rd parties, that do not cost as much as Poser itself.>>> Amen to this! That was one of the main selling points to me for buying Poser 5. And what about the new 3D animals that were promised too? And I have to agree with the poster that says: >>Definitely fix P5, and call it P5.5 if you ahve to. Don't hit up the next number. >> And charge CHEAP VERY CHEAP!! And this time I won't be one of the first in line with my money, I'll be waiting for other people to buy it and review it before I take this risk again. Oh, and I agree with people saying that those thinking DAZ Studio will be the instant Poser killer are living in wonderland. Just look at Michael 3, they just proved they are capable of major screwups too. But at least it will be free so no risk for us users.