Thanks, Dave. I tried it ... didn't work any better for me, and it made Vue highly unstable. (E-on is #2 on my **it-list. Guess that makes them #2 on my #2 list, har-har.) I could actually get a lot of things from P5 to import without the beta. But Vue slows down to a crawl if I import any comples Poser scenes ... the timeline becomes practically useless. Does this happen to you? VuePro looks promising, especially if they fixed OpenGL as I have heard... but here we go again. Just like you were just saying, playing right into their hands -- for something that should have worked the first time. -Tim