Hi dunno where correct ref got it's info from just reinstalled wyvern and ran CR and got loads more don't know that tex messages than I did last night! Oh well....I like the figure but for the pic I have in mind he/she needs to be more ....calculating ....a bit like a falcon looking at it prey! thanks guys now off to see what he looks like in bryce Oh and I think I agree with LD re the elbow spines. I just wish the makers of reign of fire had used Dragons Not Wyverns...good effects wrong creature. Dave