The M3 shoulder does bother me, even the default guy with no morphs has a strangeness going on in the shoulder which I call "the dorsel fin." :( I want to like M3. I'm still hoping he's fixable and that this is not a major design flaw. If worse comes to worse, I would like to use M3's better looking face, texture maps, and clothes on M2. I'll try experimenting with the M3 to M2 morph again tonight to see if there's a solution somewhere in the body shape. Jaager, Is there any kind of Mat pose one can hit to reset the Jp's to default? Last night, I used "restore figure" in the menu a lot during my M3SR1 pose trials, but if I had morphs on him, I wouldn't want to lose them by doing a "restore figure." bB