I have always tended towards Nurbs modelers. I used to used Infi-D (still do sometimes), until Metacreations sold out. After that I used Pixels3D. If your a Mac person you should check it out. They used to give the previous version away free. It is a Superb spline modeler/animation/renderer. If I was on a PC, I would be using Rhino. I have browsed their web page longingly many times!!! Boy, I wish they would port that one! I started using Wings3D about a month ago. This is the simplest modeler to learn I have found yet. It has many features that are normaly only found on more expensive programs. It is still beta but very stable. I can't wait to see what it will be, when finished. Best of all - It is free and runs on almost anything. I have also found organic shapes much easier with nurbs instead of polys, but that is an old debate. Claymor - Your sword was awesome!