I doubt anyone here soley picks on DAZ, but if a company goes out of its way to look silly it's likely to get picked up on... For what it's worth I've checkd my latest downloads and can say that the sr1 m3baseUP.exe downloaded 02/10/03 (UK date) is definaltey different to the sr1 m3baseUP.exe downloaded 01/10/03 (UK date). Both were dated 9-30-03 (USA date) on the DAZ site and called sr1, with the same filename. My m3bodymorphUP.exe and ps_tx469-M3MapsHi-update.exe of same dates as base updates are identical regardless of date, so these appear to have not changed (unless they've changed since I downloaded on 2/10). Argh. DAZ appear, again, to be issueing more patches than they're willing to admit to. they aren't issuing new sr numbers (e.g. sr1.1) or changing the date. I've been here before with Victoria 3 :(