I'm both. I do traditional art and since getting involve in CG I've used that for work too. But I also do it for a hobby. There's nothing I'd rather do to relieve the tension af a hard day than potter about with Bryce, or Poser, or Rhino. I think it is all very satisfying and fast, when painting a picture it can take weeks to complete and you're generally working to someone elses specifications and time scale. Whereas with CG you can get results in moments and no one is telling you to have it done by such and such. 8) Catlin