Aye, nomuse, I understand Bryce's limitations. But for terrain-making, it is hands down the most powerful of all the enviro-renderers. I have used ridiculous Bryce terrains in Lightwave and RDS, and they work flawlessly. Internally, Bryce is a great architectural modeler, you just have to know how to use it, like any program! Peep through my gallery and youll understand what I mean... (and feel free to slander me at any time, sometimes text makes me seem to serious!)