Well, I don't know if Curious Labs is being straight up or not, but it could be true, dial up networking is a part of Windows Networking, and it's possible that Poser is checking for network ports, and just runs down through any you have installed. Lightwave 6 (when used with it's Hub system) requires TCP/IP to funtion, and also triggers an internet connection alert. I don't know what Curious Labs put in their 4.0.3 patch (apparently not anything of any value to those who've already installed 4.0.2) and I was hoping for a more forth right reponse (and I could have lived without the "if you weren't such a**holes, we wouldn't have to do this" inference) but, I think it's a little early for a lynch mob. On the other hand, this really should have been brought into the open before hand, so people would know what was going on. On the gripping hand, I'm tired, and fiddle de dee, I'll think about it tomorrow. Regards- Lemurtek