When I was installing Vue Pro on Thursday, I noticed that there was a Vue 4 scene converter utility on the CD. There are a few short paragraphs in the manual (p 28) regarding it; but the scary part is that the utility is "not a supported product". To me, this means, not guaranteed to work, may in fact screw up your scene file, too bad, so sad. Hmmm. But it seems that this is just to convert Vue 2 or 3 files if you don't have Vue d'esprit 4. I did spend about 30 minutes yesterday morning converting old atmospheres (I think Vue 3), particularly Filips, to Vue 4 Pro. I opened them in regular Vue 4, and did a save atmosphere to a new folder in the Vue 4 Pro atmosphere folder. Took a bit of time, but the atmospheres seem to be fine in Pro. I agree with you on the goofy packaging of the CDs; what on earth were they thinking? I've already taken them out and put them in CD cases.

Sgiathalaich