I'm sending them a couple of stand-alone freebies next week to check out. Dunno when they'll go up though. Thing is, DAZ tries to mix the freebies and it all depends what they have on hand at the time. Some of them are made by DAZ, others by brokers, so it varies according to how much we (the brokers) send in. I haven't sent them anything for a few months because I've been busy. Still, I reckon they do pretty well, all things considered. mac