yeah but i dont use poser5, i use propack. i usually dont like to read software books meant for software i dont have or dislike and poser 5 is one of them. got that program as a present from my sister, installed it and removed it withing one hour. repacked it and shipped it right back to her. guess it was to powerful for my computer system cause it lagged so bad i couldnt even move around in there freely.