Well.... Lightwave 6 was so riddled with bugs MOST users were pulling their hair out. But it also seems that most users stuck with the program and it's been improved considerably since that time. But you are right, it does depend on the tool that you use the most. If animation were broken in Lightwave and I used primarily animation, then I would be incredibly ticked off. I would end up going back to the previous version (as some VuePro users are doing going back to Vue4) and waiting til they get it fixed. Now... if they didn't address the issue then I would probably jump ship and try something else. Then again... I've got alot invested in Lightwave with the plugins so that might not be an option. Let us hope that E-On supports their customers coompletely and fixes all of the broken items as well as upgrading certain aspects such as the plant editor. Ya see.... we can agree to disagree and leave it at that. I think that's great! (Though I think that we're in basic agreement that software should come ouoot bugless!) How often do these disagreements get into name calling and belligerant remarks? Too often. Thanks ShadowWind for remaining professional throughout! Fantastic! :) Megalodon