edriver, although your post has nothing to do with the current thread & the good Dr. Legume certainly doesn't need me to speak in his defense, I'm afraid you don't understand how usenet works. A.B.3D.P is an unmoderated group. This means that no one has the ability to cancel posts or determine what gets posted. Unless you have access to the newsserver itself the only way posts can be deleted is by the original poster. Now admittedly the vox populi/FAQ/charter can have some influence but if a poster is either thick-skinned or dense enough to ignore those, there is little anyone can do other than complain to the miscreants' ISP in hopes of getting their net access terminated. I certainly am not arrogant enough to even think to tell you "go" or "stay" but by hauling out your righteous indignation & leaving in a huff, all you've managed to accomplish is cutting off the people in a.b.3d.p from the help & guidance you may have been able to give them & depriving yourself of a valueable resource. And I guarantee you the "warez kitty" who attempted to post Poser to the group didn't lose a minutes' sleep over it.