Hi DB, Im suspecting that the ink bottle is a vertex/facet object. For transparent glass type of objects I've had the best luck with spline/freeform objects. The reflections and refractions are cleaner. The other thing that I try to do is have a bigradient as the background (not the backdrop) to give the glass something to reflect. I do have a bump in the glass above just to give it some imperfections. If it would help, I can post the scene above if it would make things clearer. Mark