nevermind BUT THANKS, I found it on cdrom I knew I had it stored on cdrom but nothings labled so I had to go look through about 50 cdroms to find the file, But here he is loaded and tweeked, I gave his body and mask some adjustments to make him look a little better. He kinda loads skinny and the mask loads a little too big I think, needs alot more dread locks that curve up behind the mask so you can see them over the mask in the back of the head once I finish my Alien Ill go ahead and make more dread locks for tbkoens preditor.