Ive never dealt with any other company that thought they had to check my passwords and Im not starting now. I have bought every version of poser (even tho I dont use it that often) since it came out, and find it very dis-heartening that the first new touch would cause my firewall to freak out. so still no p4.0.3 or p5+ for me... but Im glad others like the explanation... still see no real accomplishment by putting such a check on any system..its easy to stop and I just dont get why it would be done when such things (meaning any kind of broadcast) in the past have been recieved so negatively in the past. This is probably the #1 program used with Bryce on the whole as a community...tis sad indeed... well...nuff from me... Im sure Ive made it clear that this is not acceptable to me in any form... BT Deborah C. Bishop brycetech@yahoo.com http://www.brycetech.com/