mokba, what drivers are you using for your card? is it the 3.8 that they just came out with? the opengl combos that you were trying, was that in the display panel or in vue? oh and the usb 2.0 thing was a failure, it started to crash after that as well. a crash analysis from microsoft pointed to the memory, i my case at least. i will tinker with the opengl settings and see what comes up. thanks for the tip, i hope it does the trick eric