nish, wait for the new p4 extreme, it is going to have a new l3 cache with i think a meg. going to be geared towards gamers, but i am sure it will do wonders with 3d. as for the games, i'm gonna hold you to that...lol! i want to start a new box myself after the holidays, try to hook up a render farm for when i break down and by 3ds max 6 when it is released (thank you student discount!!!), but that is me pipe dreaming. mokba, i will have to try the drivers again, when i did install them i had the monitor hooked up through a kvm switch between two pc's. i nixed the switch, so i will have to try them again. maybe that could help as i keep getting driver errors, hopefully that will fix it. well i am off to try another stick of mem. wish me luck! eric