Hi again Brent, I've put stuff on the inside of meshes before. I can't guarantee that it will work but it may be as simple as having a positive value in the 'left' locater. Pardons in advance if I'm telling you something that you already know but make sure you use the dolly camera within the preview window to spin the shader model around and find it. (hold the 'D' down and click and spin the object) BTW, do you really have monitors that fight each other or is that 'dual' monitors? :) Mark