Well, to change the subject :) Sprite... "Artists never fail to amaze me. We are so hung up on realism with poser and trying so very hard not to use post rendering and such to make our stuff as true and real as possible..." What's this about realism and no post rendering. Often, I ve seen images not post rendered that look anything but real. I guess I'm not a purist. I believe poser is a tool to assist in making imagery and I do fair amount of post rendering, because the final product is what counts for me. Not that I just rendered it straight from poser. As for your other points, a greater variety of all types of body shapes is a good thing to have. And no, I don't think you're a sexist pig if you find a certain type attractive. I believe we all have ideals for what we consider attractive. And there is nothing wrong for people to have these ideals as long as they don't denigrate those who fall outside of those parameters. From the way you talk, I feel you respect the differences of others.