thanx for the pic Nyguy, I think you'll be pleased with the textures being developed for it :) Sorry for the snotty comment Lyrra, but I am just finding this site harder and harder to work with...it used to be alot of fun, so it makes the fall harder from how nice it used to be. But I guess you all are trying your best. Feedback is a big part of my development process when putting projects together, so I guess I will have to content myself with looking for that on other sites.