'but AR takes forever to fire up these days, what with the overblown DRM stuff they added' Silke, If I've learned anything at all in years of using computers, it's that 'new' doesn't neccessarily mean better. I have a stash of old versions of apps which I keep and use when I have to re-install. I'm currently using acrobat 4.0 which I've had for a long time. It's a bit klunky, but it works. I've been burned several times moving up to the new versions of apps. An example being ACDC. I got the upgrade 6 months ago, hated it, and went back to my trusty old v2.41. Every time a new version comes out for a program nowadays, they add more junk, and each version seems to be more intrusive than the one before. And I HATE 'helpful' software! Grrrr.... I threw IE 6.0 in the trash too. 'I rather have too much info - than none, or too little' Ah well, I'm with you there. The Help File for my newest product is 33 pages, + a short tutorial, + another 6 pages listing body parts, materials and morphs for the figures. Overkill? Well.... I don't think so. 'Ya don't like it, skip it' is what I say. It's called '------ (product name) Help File', is in html format and can be stored anywhere at all without losing it's files. Now if other people would do that for me when I buy a product, I'd be happy. 'Do as ye would be done unto' sounds like a good rule. mac