Sorry, Norm if I came across as abrasive. It's just one of those "IF I hear, "It's probably the codec compression" one more time!" kind of things. Also, I never render at anything less than 30fps ... even test renders. Although I may start doing 15fps test renders for Vue, since it is glacially slow once Poser figures are imported. I wish Vue had the ability to do screen renders ... ala Poser, which would write about 3 frames per second. Then again, Vue doesn't even display OpenGL right. Talk about wishful thinking ... LOL! -Tim