"The other reason you don't see Bryce flicker listed much is that VERY FEW people actually animate in Bryce. I have used it since 1.0 and although I love it for stills, the camera movements are jerky as hell and until b5 it always crashed when you animated in it." Scott: Really? I've used it since version 3 (IT MOVES!), and it literally never crashed on me that I recall. It is one of the more stable apps I have ever used. As far as the camera movements. It doesn't have a smooth motion drop-down like Vue, but it does have a decent animation graph editor (I think it's call "Advanced Motion Lab") where I could easily tweak the camera moves to smooth them out in a few seconds. -Tim