But getting back to still artists ... like writing a script for an animation, I'd say the real art occurs in the mind. To me, creativity = art. So when the still artists' contemplate what their scene is going to look like (and I'm sure for many it evolves AS they CREATE), that is where the art is occuring. Now, if you loaded someone elses PZ3 and hit the render button ... that would not be art. I'd say the qualifying factor is: If you put any kind of original thought into composing something, than it is art. IMHO of course. _Tim